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Immobi Tag - Help protect your bike!
by UKmountain
Posted: Feb 14, 2009
After reading about the recent theft of the Marin bikes and reading endless "Stolen" adverts I though I would try and give some ideas on how to help protect your pride and joy!
There are many different ways on how to protect your bike against theft, and nothing is worse than coming out of your house and seeing a ransacked shed and nothing apart from a bent wheel and broken lock on the floor are left. Your beloved bike has gone for a walk even after telling it to sit and stay and some scabby little thief has helped them self to your rig!
While flicking through a recent mountain bike magazine, I read an advert for "IMMOBI TAG". It seems that they have been around for a while but have not been given the type of exposure that they really need. The Immobi Tag is a small tag that fits inside of your bike, this piece of kit is like what newer cars have fitted and like the car tracker it emits radio waves which can be picked up by any UK police force. The device simply is known as a radio frequency identification device. In the event that your bike is stolen, the incident will show up on their National Stolen Property Database as well as the Second Hand Trade Stolen Property Register therefore limiting the ways that the thief can sell the bike. Currently the device retails at £13.99, I see this as a small price to pay compared to paying out thousands again for a new bike. After all, over half a million bikes get stolen each year, could yours be one of them...?
Details:
-Currently the device is for UK residents only, but I'm sure it will be in the US and other countries soon, and I'm sure that if you look around you can find something similar.
-A Radio Frequency Identification tag with a unique ID number that fits inside your bicycles frame.
-Stickers to ensure that anyone eyeing up your bike knows that it will be practically impossible to sell.
-Register your bicycle and activate your tag online at www.immobilise.com
-The website is connected to the Police's National Stolen Property Database and the Second Hand Trade Stolen Property Database.
-The Tag needs to be activated via the website for your property to be safe guarded.
Size:
3 x 3 x 3 cm.
The device can be found by typing its name into Google or can be purchased from WWW.IMMOBITAG.COM
If anyone has suggestions please note them down for all to read, anything is better than nothing at all!
While flicking through a recent mountain bike magazine, I read an advert for "IMMOBI TAG". It seems that they have been around for a while but have not been given the type of exposure that they really need. The Immobi Tag is a small tag that fits inside of your bike, this piece of kit is like what newer cars have fitted and like the car tracker it emits radio waves which can be picked up by any UK police force. The device simply is known as a radio frequency identification device. In the event that your bike is stolen, the incident will show up on their National Stolen Property Database as well as the Second Hand Trade Stolen Property Register therefore limiting the ways that the thief can sell the bike. Currently the device retails at £13.99, I see this as a small price to pay compared to paying out thousands again for a new bike. After all, over half a million bikes get stolen each year, could yours be one of them...?
Details:
-Currently the device is for UK residents only, but I'm sure it will be in the US and other countries soon, and I'm sure that if you look around you can find something similar.
-A Radio Frequency Identification tag with a unique ID number that fits inside your bicycles frame.
-Stickers to ensure that anyone eyeing up your bike knows that it will be practically impossible to sell.
-Register your bicycle and activate your tag online at www.immobilise.com
-The website is connected to the Police's National Stolen Property Database and the Second Hand Trade Stolen Property Database.
-The Tag needs to be activated via the website for your property to be safe guarded.
Size:
3 x 3 x 3 cm.
The device can be found by typing its name into Google or can be purchased from WWW.IMMOBITAG.COM
If anyone has suggestions please note them down for all to read, anything is better than nothing at all!
90 Comments
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llessurretneprac
(Feb 20, 2009 at 0:04)
Looks like an awesome idea! I wonder if they will be available for use in the US?
Great in principal, but call me a pessimist - I think it's as about as useful as an arse flavoured lollipop.
It only "works" IF a bike is recovered and the police ctually bother to check their database.
I recently had 2 bikes stolen and the Police couldnt look more disinterested if they tried.
A real solution would be a propper sat-nav tracking device embedded in your top tube, much like the stolen vehicle tracking systems. Unfortunately it's rather heavy
It only "works" IF a bike is recovered and the police ctually bother to check their database.
I recently had 2 bikes stolen and the Police couldnt look more disinterested if they tried.
A real solution would be a propper sat-nav tracking device embedded in your top tube, much like the stolen vehicle tracking systems. Unfortunately it's rather heavy
is it water proof lol cause if ur washing ur bike and it gets wet as water tends to go everywere and it shuts off and ur bike ghets niked u have no way of using the device as it wouldnt work :-P gr8 idea tho i shall buy 1 and call it jezza!
This makes me wonder if the new stimulus package covered Second Hand Trade Stolen Property Database.......lol. It's a great idea, just like any idea that is actually implemented.
i got a better idea, put a car batery in your backpack and leave it with your bike , and wire it up to you bike frame.... they will think twice about stealing a bike again , because they will touch the frame sooner or latter . if you put that radio frequncy thingy's stickers on your bike, thats ot gona stop no one , they will just rip it out of the seat tube (im assuming thats weere it goes) and stick on some random guys bike.... lol
i dsaw a report the other week that this was a load of cock. breakfast television got it fitted, then reported the bike as stolen and left it abandoned - the only way they got it back was by buying it back from the car boot sale the police gave it too!
@brandyn16....don't think a rucksack with wires coming out of it would go down to well here...you get shot in the head for running for a train!
The device itself is great, we just need the police to start taking bike theft more seriously...I'm not bothered about my car officer, that was worth £300, my bike was worth £3,000!
The device itself is great, we just need the police to start taking bike theft more seriously...I'm not bothered about my car officer, that was worth £300, my bike was worth £3,000!
THIS IS KIND OF POINTLESS IF U HAVE A FULLY, U CANT STICK IT WHERE THE SEAT POST IS LIKE IT SAYS ON THEIR SITE TO BECAUSE MOST OR ALL FULLYS SEAT POST DO NOT GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BB, AND I DONT THINK THE HANDLE BARS WOULD WORK EITHER BECAUSE IF IT IS STOLEN THEY COULD PART THE BIKE OUT, OR JUST REMOVE THEM .
IF IM WRONG IM SORRY, HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW U COULD PUT IT ON A FULLY ?????
IF IM WRONG IM SORRY, HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW U COULD PUT IT ON A FULLY ?????
bit of a generalisation you made there, the orange 224 comes to mind right away, it is a full sus with a seat tube that goes all the way. im sure there are plenty others out there but still a good point about not being able to fit them to some bikes.
10 grams are u kidding me? are u worried about 10 grams yea your right id rather have -10 grams and get my bike stolen ur so SMART!
you got to be kidding me
10 grams. what the f*ck happened to you. thats nothing. you wouldnt even notice it
And chtelife, i totally agree with you
10 grams. what the f*ck happened to you. thats nothing. you wouldnt even notice it
And chtelife, i totally agree with you
Guys, the best thing todo if your worried about bike theft is pay £100 for insurance. You covered for damage, personal liability if you smash into a rambler, and get the bike replaced if it gets stolen. If someone wants to steel a bike theres not much that you can do to protect it.
just replying to the above comment. if someone wants to steal your bike there you could always lock it up! im pretty sure if someone wanted to steal my bikes they wouldnt have much luck seeing how there kept locked to the wall in a locked garage! ive got insurence too though.
replying to this so as many people as possible know
it says we evcen give u a sticker to put on your frame so people know that it is protected by immbitag
well if you put this sticker on your bike it basically tells the thief to makes sure that they take the immbitag out of your bike before they sell it on
it says we evcen give u a sticker to put on your frame so people know that it is protected by immbitag
well if you put this sticker on your bike it basically tells the thief to makes sure that they take the immbitag out of your bike before they sell it on
RFID does not use batteries. Instead it more or less reflects a radio signal with a signature attached.
It's designed so it will never come out. Use it in conjunction with microtags, ground anchors, the best quality locks available, and most importantly, common sense...only today I saw four very nice jump bikes unlocked outside a shop with one scared looking 14yr old kid "guarding" them...we hung around till they got back as pikeys were already circling.
I spoke to a Police man at the London Bike show and he said they are not worth it because the eqipment needed to read the signal is only in a small ammount of police stations and most police dont understand how this unit works.
just like data tag and all the other ways the police is the weak link in this all! ! ! also in holland.. we have 2 different databases.. and no-one who checks them,, also the device to check the data number is never EVER anywhere to be found,..
they are an overpayed under equipped under educated not interested buch of..#$%^@#$&...ahhh wat ever..
in other words..> go buy a car they tell you.. and when that gets stolen ..> same story
they are an overpayed under equipped under educated not interested buch of..#$%^@#$&...ahhh wat ever..
in other words..> go buy a car they tell you.. and when that gets stolen ..> same story
all you need are the gubbins in your phone that allow that to be tracked by police if needs be...extremely light and you can catch the skally wags who stole your pride and joy red handed...BSTRDS !
umm maybe I misunderstand something, but aren't those stickers like 'oh mr thief, there's an anti-thief radio device inside the seat tube, take it out as soon as possible'?
ya id much rather have the joy of having a gps chip embedded in my seat foam secretly and walking up to the guys house and punching him
Problem there matey is the cheapest GPS chip cost around £200 and thats not including the compnay fees of tracking your bike per year!
This can cost upto £400!
This can cost upto £400!
it would still be fun to beat up someone who jacked a bike 
something to do if i ever have too much money on my hands.... buy a bunch of bikes and leave them laying around with GPS in them
something to do if i ever have too much money on my hands.... buy a bunch of bikes and leave them laying around with GPS in them
I'd buy one if they weorked in Canada
Im so nervous for the few times a year that i leavemy bike in my garage
Im so nervous for the few times a year that i leavemy bike in my garage
what i do when i leave for a long trip(not a bike related) i leave my bike in my room inside the house. and if anything ever happens my house is insured and so are the items in it. and plus i have a house security system. if it goes off cops are there in 3 min.
lol nice I ussually do that too but th eodd time I leave it in my shed over night...lo9l only upside is I cant sleep when I do that so its safe as long as Im up hahah
proxx to put your mind at rest, put the stickers somewhere inconspicuos or dont put them on, if you register your bike and the police look it up it will indicate that it has device on it.
Theifs arent always the brightest people and a sticker on a bike can mean anything sponsership or decoration e.t.c.
Theifs arent always the brightest people and a sticker on a bike can mean anything sponsership or decoration e.t.c.
There are also other ID tags some are used on cars as small sticker that has adesive and corrodes a small amount of the metal or paint leaving a digit code (like chassis or frame number) that can not be removed this can also be used on bikes to identify that it is YOURS police dont take "oh yeah its red with black wheels".
And another one...
You can buy anchor points for motorbikes that you bolt to the ground and chain the wheel to the DONT! make sure you anchor the FRAME feed the chain throught bike parts e.g wheels e.t.c
always rember this if your outside a shop i've read storys of people going in buyin a drink comeing out to find the front wheel and/ or forks left there!
You can also buy Eletronic wires, like a chain but when the chain is broken an alarm sounds flashing lights the lot if you really want.
There commonly found in mobile phone shops and gun stores if theifs see them they run a mile because there practicly completely fool proof!
You can buy anchor points for motorbikes that you bolt to the ground and chain the wheel to the DONT! make sure you anchor the FRAME feed the chain throught bike parts e.g wheels e.t.c
always rember this if your outside a shop i've read storys of people going in buyin a drink comeing out to find the front wheel and/ or forks left there!
You can also buy Eletronic wires, like a chain but when the chain is broken an alarm sounds flashing lights the lot if you really want.
There commonly found in mobile phone shops and gun stores if theifs see them they run a mile because there practicly completely fool proof!
yea but those stickers don't look like they're very easy to hide, especially with this yellow WARNING on them. they don't seem to be this corroding thing either. maybe some thieves aren't very bright (but only some of them, because most ARE, unfortunately), but they surely understand that bright yellow WARNING isn't for sponsorship or decoration, lol. they would just steal bike like any other, read the description (lol) and throw this radio thing away. they aren't THAT dumb.
and about this electronic wires... ok ok, but you're starting to talk about completely different things, huh? I KNOW that there are ways to protect your bike, but here we're discussing this particular radio thing.
this tag thing could be fun wat bout buying 1, registring it ect, and then catapult it onto the top of a police building, then reprot that its missing like 2 days later, or if u no where a police guy lives, plant it next to his house this could be really good fun 
wat bout buying 1, registring it ect, and then catapult it onto the top of a police building, then reprot that its missing like 2 days later, or if u no where a police guy lives, plant it next to his house this could be really good fun
Not sure how effective they are, as I am lucky enough not to have had a bike stolen. If you live in Guildford, Surrey, UK the local police fit this system to bikes for free. Which is better then a smack in the mouth I guess 
amazing.. it should be available worldwide...
I´ve been stolen for three miserables with guns that came out a car when i was going uphill.. my bike gone.... never seen again.. that device could be a lot of help....
I´ve been stolen for three miserables with guns that came out a car when i was going uphill.. my bike gone.... never seen again.. that device could be a lot of help....
ye one problem....im across teh sea from the uk but the irish police dont have the device for tracking so if i buy one it would be useless : it shud be made world wide as some bikes can cost up to 6 grand....
"The tag gives off a unique Radio
Frequency Identification (RFID) signal
that is registered on your account
online."
Ok, How does it emit a signal when it is located physically inside a "Faraday Cage"; (i.e. aluminum seattube)?
Frequency Identification (RFID) signal
that is registered on your account
online."
Ok, How does it emit a signal when it is located physically inside a "Faraday Cage"; (i.e. aluminum seattube)?
Possibly because it emits a radio frequency not an electrical current so a faraday cage wouldn't really have any effect on it.
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its well thought out to a certain point but wot happens if u got a frame with a interupted seat tube, ur screwed
You can get the transistor seperate which is teh size of a grain of rice and can be superglued somewhere out of the way such as upper shock mount. Amazingly it seems to work.
you can also get similiar devices that emit a high pitched alarm noise when moved... much like a car alarm.
they weight a bit more and require a small battery... but they are cool.
they weight a bit more and require a small battery... but they are cool.
Unsure that it GPS tracked, but cheap and effective this would be a key solution and the device that reads them cant be super expensive!
Best idea yet mate, better than moaning about the point of where do i put it e.t.c or that police dont look.
Anythings better than nothing!
Best idea yet mate, better than moaning about the point of where do i put it e.t.c or that police dont look.
Anythings better than nothing!
Do a little research, this is exactly the same as the "rice" trackers vet's use. And no, they're not GPS tracked. How would you change the batteries on a sub-dermal implant?
I used to have a thing on my old bike in the seat tube so if the bike got turned into the police they can scan it and read the address and name etc embedded in it or whatever but there not so good because as someone mentioned in a comment further up not many police stations have the scanning device or dont know how to use them:/ but one idea i thought was just to make a sticker saying this bike is electronically tagged and will be found by the police as soon as its displaced or something i dunno, but i might get one of these products...
bend over i'll show you... just kidding... looks like a piece of plastic similar to a star nut, just think seat tube instead of a fork, and quite a bit deeper.
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Not all of us can afford to buy a gun and a licence and some off us carnt!
OH like in the UK and many other countrys that have made hand guns illegal, and personally i dont think you would have time to launch into action with a 12 bore unless your steven stegal!
and it gives them a bigger reason to carry a gun and be the first to shoot!
OH like in the UK and many other countrys that have made hand guns illegal, and personally i dont think you would have time to launch into action with a 12 bore unless your steven stegal!
and it gives them a bigger reason to carry a gun and be the first to shoot!
guns arnt to expesnive rifles yes maybe, but handguns can start at like 500$? im not saying go buy a gun but i sure as hell wouldent fuk with a guy if i was a theif, with a gun pointed at me. i knife is a diffrent story unless they're throwing knifes, unless the guy being jack is a ninja then he could deflect the knifes and rip the theifs heart out.
haha (im not a little kid) just throwing ideas out there
haha (im not a little kid) just throwing ideas out there
It is just an RFID tag embedded in the frame tube. That is it.
Only way it helps is if police scan the tag after recovering a bike they think/know is stolen. Unless they read the tag of every bike they see!
I think this just one ups registering your serial numbers/info.
Only way it helps is if police scan the tag after recovering a bike they think/know is stolen. Unless they read the tag of every bike they see!
I think this just one ups registering your serial numbers/info.
problem is, In the UK the police arent geared up to handle bike theft. i was mugged of my brand new build whilst taking her out for her very first test ride (litteraly 16 hours befre putting the last parts together) and i was bloody pissed off. i stayed at the skatepark where it happened and as locals came and went, the word spread and in the end, we found out this guys name and the road he lived on.
I'm a country lad and this was the city so I didnt want to risk my chances and go there myself so told the police, the same day, the name of teh guy who took it.
5 weeks later they rung me back asking for my details.
the idea of the immobitag is great. but even if the bike came up on a radio frequency detector thing, the police will turn a blind eye to it!
I'm a country lad and this was the city so I didnt want to risk my chances and go there myself so told the police, the same day, the name of teh guy who took it.
5 weeks later they rung me back asking for my details.
the idea of the immobitag is great. but even if the bike came up on a radio frequency detector thing, the police will turn a blind eye to it!
I am really sorry to hear about that. I have been stolen my bike too and I kind of sympathise with you. Sad though it is, you are speaking trhurth.
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It is funny that there are people here that think this RFID tag emits some signal that shows where your bike is.
This is about as good as engraving your drivers licensee # on your bike.
It is a way of identifying your bike IF the police find it. Its not a theft deterrent and it will not work like GPS, like some of you think.
It is a way of identifying your bike IF the police find it. Its not a theft deterrent and it will not work like GPS, like some of you think.
even if it is worth 10K .. unless youre lance.. youre f@cked either way..
more chance the police gives the thief on the bike a ticket running a red light than thinking could this bike be stolen !? cause the ticket is more easy to do..and still counts for his yearly ticket/fine quotum..
keep them in house as said before.. or ride them fast carrying a big hart.. or a weapon in the city.. I do..most of you will ride with a backpack..to stash it in..? with all those foking immigrants round here..unless youre ripped off by more than 2 guys.. just stab 'em gently
more chance the police gives the thief on the bike a ticket running a red light than thinking could this bike be stolen !? cause the ticket is more easy to do..and still counts for his yearly ticket/fine quotum..
keep them in house as said before.. or ride them fast carrying a big hart.. or a weapon in the city.. I do..most of you will ride with a backpack..to stash it in..? with all those foking immigrants round here..unless youre ripped off by more than 2 guys.. just stab 'em gently
How about this.
You put RFID readers at every bike park trail centre and bike shops. YOu pay a bit more each year for registration and the then any bike stolen will show up if ridden at any centre or taken in for repair. The average hipower reader is good for 2 meters.
You put RFID readers at every bike park trail centre and bike shops. YOu pay a bit more each year for registration and the then any bike stolen will show up if ridden at any centre or taken in for repair. The average hipower reader is good for 2 meters.
To all those that will read this and are interested.
I have contacted the company and they are reashearching and working towards the IMMOBITAG going international. They are contacting me with further information and depending on what that is if any one is interested PM me and ill send you any updates.
Cheers UKM
I have contacted the company and they are reashearching and working towards the IMMOBITAG going international. They are contacting me with further information and depending on what that is if any one is interested PM me and ill send you any updates.
Cheers UKM
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